tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405476812031211238.post1936879499825231898..comments2023-07-12T18:09:56.569-04:00Comments on Rhythm of Testing: Expertise, Skills and the Whole TeamPete Walenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10651704389491850533noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405476812031211238.post-40782398004133816432013-07-22T22:06:21.527-04:002013-07-22T22:06:21.527-04:00Sadly, I keep running into people new to Agile who...Sadly, I keep running into people new to Agile who keep latching onto the concept. A couple of them last week. As for experts or specialists? Consider that the role of a specialist is to help others understand what they do. Just as a tester can learn from a developer and pick up ideas - and the other way around. <br /><br />I'm not advocating silos at all. However, sharing ideas, concepts and techniques can broaden everyone.Pete Walenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651704389491850533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405476812031211238.post-52686349191720542172013-07-22T08:18:54.824-04:002013-07-22T08:18:54.824-04:00Not sure about this post and whether you're pu...Not sure about this post and whether you're putting up strawmen or just been talking to the wrong people...<br />The Chicken and pIg thing fell out of favour a long time ago for instance.<br />Not do I think anyone is claiming that the product owner should be rolling uo their sleeves and writing themselves some Ruby<br /><br />I'm not even sure the example you use to illustrate your point is a good one - so the person never thought of testing a page like that? Well, she probably will from now on. WHat else can you teach her? How good at testing would she be after a year of learning from a testing expert like you? Or me?<br /><br />'specialists' can lead to silos and then there's the bus count problem - what happens to the team if you lift one cobble too many at the weekend and are off work for a month?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00281118161548464012noreply@blogger.com